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4 sincere questions for those that believe there is a God

by S EIGHT in

greetings.. allow me to set the questions up.. after 30 years in the truth (i'm now late 40's) and having established the truth about the truth i consider myself agnostic going on atheist.. i struggle to believe there is a god when i observe life yet i try to convince myself there must be something out there.. here's the basis of my question: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23583116 .

in summary, 2 young boys have been killed by a snake that escaped from a pet store in canada.

it made it's way up through the ventilation into the apartment they were staying in.

S EIGHT

@Ding you got me thinking about Bruce Almighty - auto reply yes to all prayers.

It's an interesting thought - if I were God...

however, none of us have the mental capacity to comprehend such a notion. It's hard enough being human.

@knowsnothing - the points you raise are difficult to ponder as I default to the concept that it is mans greed and ruination of the earth that causes famine. I think the earth could provide sufficiently. We messed it up though.

You make a good point however in regard to our limitations. Yes I could help a local family in need but it's the tip of the iceberg which is why I look to God for the ultimate answer on a global scale. On a very basic level, we all lend a hand as it is human nature. If I have food and you don't, and you're hungry, I will give you some. Simple. Not heroic, just human nature.

How much more so could our creator do just that...?

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4 sincere questions for those that believe there is a God

by S EIGHT in

greetings.. allow me to set the questions up.. after 30 years in the truth (i'm now late 40's) and having established the truth about the truth i consider myself agnostic going on atheist.. i struggle to believe there is a god when i observe life yet i try to convince myself there must be something out there.. here's the basis of my question: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23583116 .

in summary, 2 young boys have been killed by a snake that escaped from a pet store in canada.

it made it's way up through the ventilation into the apartment they were staying in.

S EIGHT

Interesting points being raised, some of which point to the thrust of question 3 which I think is worthy of consideration. When I was "in" I prayed for all sorts and quite often encouraged others by expressing how my prayers were answered.

One example wold would be after delivering a talk. I would be approached by a member of the congregation who would praise me on my delivery. In return I would say (genuinely) that it was Jehovah that helped me through his Holy Spirit which I had asked for through prayer, privately, before stepping on the platform.

I honestly believed this to be the case.

But really??

Did Jehovah really help me? Did he really send his Holy Spirit to help me deliver a good talk while so many other things on earth require his attention?

This is just one example and I could quote plenty but you get my point...

It's a common topic of conversation among congregation members where they believe Jehovah has a hand in the goings on but it just cannot be the case when he is needed in far more important situations across the globe.

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4 sincere questions for those that believe there is a God

by S EIGHT in

greetings.. allow me to set the questions up.. after 30 years in the truth (i'm now late 40's) and having established the truth about the truth i consider myself agnostic going on atheist.. i struggle to believe there is a god when i observe life yet i try to convince myself there must be something out there.. here's the basis of my question: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23583116 .

in summary, 2 young boys have been killed by a snake that escaped from a pet store in canada.

it made it's way up through the ventilation into the apartment they were staying in.

S EIGHT

Hi Laika,

Many thanks for your comments. You got me thinking again.

In response to your point on question2, yes absolutley I've allowed an injustice to happen at some stage in my life although I have the excuse of imperfection on my side. To clarify though, theres a difference between making poor decisions that cause pain and suffering and situations where you allow an injustice to take place, but like i say - I'm no wise person nor am I perfect and although that sounds like a big get out, it's actually true.

Yes I feel homesick and long for something better. I used to love being a "spiritual" person and adored the bible but I wasn't a thinking man back then. My eyes have been opened and I am more dissapointed than I have ever been. I have been defrauded by the "society" and left with a gap that cannot be filled. When I break things down to barebones I'm left with the questions raised in the initial post.

It may sound haughty but I expect more from an Almighty being. How can he possibly watch these things happen for over 2000 years? It's almost as if death is like a mobile phone dying. It's ok, it dies but just put it on charge again and it will come back to life.

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4 sincere questions for those that believe there is a God

by S EIGHT in

greetings.. allow me to set the questions up.. after 30 years in the truth (i'm now late 40's) and having established the truth about the truth i consider myself agnostic going on atheist.. i struggle to believe there is a god when i observe life yet i try to convince myself there must be something out there.. here's the basis of my question: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23583116 .

in summary, 2 young boys have been killed by a snake that escaped from a pet store in canada.

it made it's way up through the ventilation into the apartment they were staying in.

S EIGHT

Greetings.

Allow me to set the questions up.

After 30 years in the truth (I'm now late 40's) and having established the truth about the truth I consider myself agnostic going on atheist.

I struggle to believe there is a God when I observe life yet I try to convince myself there must be something out there.

Here's the basis of my question: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23583116

In summary, 2 young boys have been killed by a snake that escaped from a pet store in Canada. It made it's way up through the ventilation into the apartment they were staying in. The two little boys (aged 5 and 7) were strangled to death.

Facts:

God saw the snake escape.
He saw it crawl up through the ventilation.
He saw it heading for the little boys.
He saw it take hold and kill them right before his very eyes.
He did not intervene and stop it from happening.
He knew what terror the boys would experience.
He knew what terror the family are now experiencing.

Q1. So you think there is a loving God that sat and watched this happen, correct?

Q2. If I told you that "I" sat and watched this happen but did nothing, what would you think of me?

Q3. If God is going to sit and watch something like this without doing anything, why do you think he is going to listen to your prayers and provide you with an answer on matters which quite frankly are trivial in comparrison?

Q4. Do you honestly think it is good enough to conclude that the prospect of a resurrection cancels out this tradegy and precludes God from any negligence?

For me the story is significant as we are not talking about evil selfish humans that are out to get what they can get. This is an animal created by God and two children that are not old enough yet to know their own mind let alone take sides on the big issue.

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New Child Abuse lawsuit to be filed tomorrow in Ohio against WT and congregation

by AndersonsInfo in

media alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .

civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .

childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .

S EIGHT

Court has processed complaint, stamped it and sent a copy to all parties on August 8th.

Can anyone enlighten us on the US court process?

S8

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Petition in England: "Ban Jehovah's Witnesses!" - (HM Government)

by Oubliette in

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i stumbled upon this on a hungarian ex-jw blog.

does anyone in the uk know anything about this?

of course jws will just see this at "proof" that "the is near!

S EIGHT

this is bonkers and poorly written too. 120k peadophiles??? what a shame, it could have been thought about and structured better.

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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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friends

i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.

i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.

S EIGHT

Nice update :-)

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New Child Abuse lawsuit to be filed tomorrow in Ohio against WT and congregation

by AndersonsInfo in

media alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .

civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .

childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .

S EIGHT

Here you can find the case listed by searching "Elizabeth McFarland"

http://cp.onlinedockets.com/LorainCP/case_dockets/Search.aspx?PassedSearchType=1

The Judge assigned to the case is John Miraldi.

Some comments from the Judge when he was runnng for election:

Miraldi, an Elyria resident, has worked as a civil attorney at private practices for the past 25 years. He joined Miraldi & Barrett Co. after leaving the University of Toledo and stayed with them until 1999. He then opened his own law firm, John R. Miraldi Co. and has run it for the past 12 years. He has been married for 25 years and has three children.

Miraldi has run his practice on strong Democratic principles, he said.

“I have represented people for my entire legal career under a contract that says I don’t get paid unless I win,” he said. “These people come to me because they’ve been injured, maybe it’s a work site safety matter, maybe it’s medical negligence.”

Though he has not handled criminal cases, Miraldi said his background with complex litigation makes him capable of learning quickly.

“I have the intellect to pick up criminal codes; the rules of procedure, the rules of evidence, are very similar,” he said.

Miraldi decided to run for the office because he feels he could serve the public well.

“I’ve never sought public employment before,” Miraldi said. “I think I can give back to this community by being a judge who is fair minded, who is skilled legally, who understands that access to the court is not enough, it must be fair once you get inside. A judge must preside over the courtroom where no one has an unfair advantage because of who they are or how much money they have.”

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New Child Abuse lawsuit to be filed tomorrow in Ohio against WT and congregation

by AndersonsInfo in

media alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .

civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .

childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .

S EIGHT

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New Child Abuse lawsuit to be filed tomorrow in Ohio against WT and congregation

by AndersonsInfo in

media alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .

civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .

childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .

S EIGHT

Thanks Flipper.

@skeeter1 you and me too !!!